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they can't deal with it seriously and

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on tonight's podcast we have the one the

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only Danny Silva of the Silva record

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and as usual he is going to explain in a

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when it comes to this High strangeness

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and even a little bit of conspiracy

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come Blast Off In My Time Machine sir I

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now speaking of amazing content we have

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Danny Silva he is the go-to guy he is

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gonna break down what is going on all of

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military shootdowns

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and the close proximity of all this and

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what it all means

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Danny Silva welcome to the hero

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paranormal podcast

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what's up Ryan how are you man I am I'm

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weirded out and wild It Out by all of

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this stuff because when it comes to

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disclosure you always sort of have your

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incidents over the past 10 days or

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the Chinese balloon because that was

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crash retrievals that we always hear

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with that and the different government

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updates and what they're telling us

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community so I didn't that's why I said

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your opinion but I don't want to hang

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brought up George Knapp Chris Mellon and

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people chiming in all the time and but

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people say they have sources because it

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gets old there's a lot of cloud chasing

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guys that people should be paying

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things about them and I never know what

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sleeve and it's always seems to be more

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the haystack they seem to be you know

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their their sources are legitimate which

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intelligence community and cointel guys

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there's been no evidence of aliens of

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comments from people like Lou and people

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that are actually uh veterans you know

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they're they would have better opinions

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than me me personally just as a civilian

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I would think anything in our airspace

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and we don't know what it is to me is a

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threat and it's a fair game to be shot

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down that's just my opinion you know

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especially after things like 911 and

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things like that or we see these other

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huge drone attacks coming in other

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countries people like um massive genius

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reporter Tyler Rogue away from uh

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Warzone he um has been screaming about

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the Drone thing for a long time and he's

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been giving the evidence of it

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um you know it goes on I think there's a

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huge attack in Saudi Arabia years ago I

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mean you can they can do serious damage

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just with drones you know Ukraine and

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Russia were seeing them use them now so

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one little drone that can do some

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serious damage so I think it's amazing

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and great that the United States

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government is now taking smaller objects

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seriously we need to be we need to be

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protecting ourselves and they need to be

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tracking what it is and we've been

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saying this for years and years drone

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people and UFO people they fight all the

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time but they could be getting together

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in this and say we need better tracking

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no matter what it is and I think

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everyone can agree on that

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yeah and I'm really glad that you

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mentioned that and the fact that it does

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seem as if these official channels are

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seeing an uptick in the pentagon's

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collection of evidence and obviously

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they're listening to the right people

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it's something they have been and um but

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at the same time I guess they've been

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lacking pretty badly and it took the

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Chinese drone or Chinese balloon I

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should say for them to change the

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filters and really take it seriously so

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you know we get this conflicting

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information we get different

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things going on and like you know they

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always say well the government isn't one

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person of course it's different uh you

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know programs and departments and

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everything so I realized that but you

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know like they they did uh they created

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Arrow which is basically their current

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UFO program and

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um but then today they just created

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another task force or something like

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that interagency

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um to be tracking UAP due to

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um due to this last uh week or two of uh

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shootdowns so but and then there's a lot

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of people saying uh like Marco Rubio

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said it on Twitter today well why is an

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arrow because he they work so hard to do

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Arrow why aren't they just you know

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having Arrow do this which is

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interesting and it's just kind of

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interesting to hear and because I'm no

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expert on

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um you know government ins and outs and

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it was interesting in the press

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conference yesterday the general said

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was asked if Arrow has the lead on these

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Crasher tables and he said no it's the

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FBI so I thought that was really

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interesting

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yeah because and and for those that

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don't know arrow is the all domain

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anomaly resolution office which sort of

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I guess not technically but in in the

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opinions of many out you know that

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aren't in the loop such as myself it

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seems as if they sort of took the place

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of the now defunct UAP task force and it

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it was is that your opinion as well

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yes sir they did they took the place of

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that and you know before it was atep

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um I haven't agreed with everything

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we've seen and heard of the task force

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I'm kind of skeptical I feel like me

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personally speaking I don't necessarily

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trust them all and that's not me

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thinking like they're doing wrongdoing I

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just don't necessarily like I don't want

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to take their word for things so if

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they're going to claim something I want

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to see the work that they're doing they

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need to prove it to us please

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um so that was my feeling on the task

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force after you know I was really big on

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them at first and then we started

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hearing things Chris Mellon was tweeting

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you know years ago that they were

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underfunded understaffed and he was

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basically bashing them I don't know if

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he was doing that kind of for political

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reasons to motivate people but um they

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were kind of getting bashed so anything

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um after Elizondo left like atip I

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really still have a lot of uh I think

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they were great ASAP I think was great

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after Alexander left and all that stuff

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uh ended then it went to the task force

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and now Arrow I don't know what those

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guys are doing to be honest and they

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need to show us our their work they need

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to be transparent if they make any

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claims we need to see it they can't say

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it's all classified all the time we just

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basically can't you know they need to

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prove things to us so that's kind of

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where I'm at with these government

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programs now you know something to note

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is this is only the transparent upper

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level of these UFO programs we know from

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sources and things from many years and

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people argue about this but I believe it

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is that there are secret programs even

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currently whether they're in the

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government or in um Private Industry

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those are the crazy secret you know use

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apps and waived use apps and all that

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kind of thing and I do believe those

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exist so we're talking about two

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different things here it's kind of the

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layer of the task force and the arrow

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that may not even have access to the

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special special Access program so

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unfortunately and that's what's uh

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that's why the Whistleblower language is

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in the National Defense intelligence

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authorization act I should say and

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that's a whole other subject though

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super it's it's super interesting

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because

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I'm with you and they they seem to be

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able to cover their cover their bases

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and even like you said the main Talking

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Heads for example of the UAP task force

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were able to keep a lot of things under

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wraps for a long time without being

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these you know super secretive sub uh

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organizations for example Travis Taylor

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was able to keep this a pretty good

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secret although he was hired on by

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Brandon fugle and notably I think that's

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commendable because that was his job

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another very interesting uh thing that

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has taken place is the official

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terminology for UAP where it used to

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mean unidentified

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aerial phenomena they have the Pentagon

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meaning when I say they have recently

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updated the official terminology for UAP

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to mean unidentified a nominal anomalous

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phenomena that seems very provocative to

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possibly um I know that there's a push

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going on it seems to be that there's a

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push coming from Ellen and

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you're probably a lot of these

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government officials in fact we don't I

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shouldn't say probably we know they do

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he just posted today on Twitter a

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picture of him Elizondo and gillibrand

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um so they're getting a lot of stuff

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done behind the scenes and I think

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they're also pushing the underwater

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thing so that may be why

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um I think they don't want people only

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looking uh in the skies they should also

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be looking underwater among other places

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probably

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that is a huge huge thing and

461
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that almost seems to be at least in what

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little I've gathered uh from my sources

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that seems to be under an entirely

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different level of secrecy have you

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noticed that yourself

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I don't know I don't know too much about

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the secrecy involving underwater

468
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um we definitely hear less about it

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that's for sure

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um so I wouldn't doubt it if you're

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saying that um we hear a lot less about

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it and it seems like it's a whole nother

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thing going on now to push that

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um I guess now that they've made some

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progress with the aerial situation but

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yeah I mean I wouldn't doubt that and

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plus

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you know there's one thing we have

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civilian uh

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airplanes in the sky isn't like there's

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a lot of Civilian Subs going around

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finding people so let's definitely get

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that

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yeah there's a lot of safety risks

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involved if you have a private sub and

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what are you doing with it of course and

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of course uh another question that is

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kind of a little off topic I don't want

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to go too off the path here but with the

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war in Ukraine and other recent

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conflicts and the use that widespread

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use of drones do you think that there is

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a possibility these are drones and if so

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just for me

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hearing what guys I respect seem to be

496
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leaning towards and I'm not saying

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they're saying it for sure

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um it does seem like we need to assume

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that these are drones however there's a

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lot of things to get us UFO uh people

501
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are excited and if I didn't have

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um

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you know some of these other guys saying

504
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that we need to hold our horses a little

505
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bit I'd even be more excited because

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there's weird shapes

507
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um they're not they're not being able to

508
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spot the propulsion the uh aviators

509
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aren't being able to identify them

510
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they're getting shot down apparently

511
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they're at least one of them was

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breaking into a bunch of pieces it

513
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wasn't like the Chinese balloon

514
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um there's other things that people are

515
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saying and I'm no drone expert but

516
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they've been up there for days so

517
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um if they're regular drones with motors

518
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I'm not so sure they'd be able to

519
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accomplish that maybe maybe not maybe

520
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they have other some sort some sort of

521
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other thing where they're like mini

522
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balloons you know the general yesterday

523
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was being very careful to not uh to say

524
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that they weren't balloons or that they

525
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didn't want to call them balloons

526
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because they don't know and they were

527
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calling them objects though

528
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but um I would assume that these are

529
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man-made I'm leaning towards that but

530
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I'm still a part of me is still excited

531
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because of the X Factor of how weird

532
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this is

533
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um and all the weird shapes that they're

534
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showing you know the guy a lot of people

535
00:20:44,930 --> 00:20:43,679
have been saying that the East Coast UFO

536
00:20:47,450 --> 00:20:44,940
sightings with the Gimbal and things

537
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like that were all advanced drones or

538
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some sort of weird Chinese Russian

539
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drones and some of those people it's

540
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weird you know everyone spins things how

541
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they want to spin it and a lot of those

542
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guys are looking at this as a whim for

543
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them

544
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the same type of drones that have been

545
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getting mistaken for UFOs the whole time

546
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and they're not using the track they're

547
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not easy to identify

548
00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:09,360
um and things like that so I don't know

549
00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:11,520
if it's those or of course you know

550
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maybe there's a small chance that

551
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they're actually non-human intelligence

552
00:21:19,970 --> 00:21:17,160
UFOs I don't know but I'm I would assume

553
00:21:22,610 --> 00:21:19,980
that they're uh some sort of man-made

554
00:21:23,810 --> 00:21:22,620
Tech until proven otherwise but we can

555
00:21:25,970 --> 00:21:23,820
still always have the Hope in the back

556
00:21:28,130 --> 00:21:25,980
of our minds and kind of go along for

557
00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:28,140
this uh interesting fun ride and I I

558
00:21:30,649 --> 00:21:29,400
don't want to make light of it it is

559
00:21:32,690 --> 00:21:30,659
kind of some people probably think it's

560
00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:32,700
scary for me it's pretty exciting too

561
00:21:36,049 --> 00:21:33,600
though

562
00:21:38,810 --> 00:21:36,059
it's super exciting I'm right there with

563
00:21:40,370 --> 00:21:38,820
you and I know I've had a lot of people

564
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,380
even Neighbors come up and they're like

565
00:21:45,710 --> 00:21:42,480
what's going on you know it's time to

566
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:45,720
ask the UFO believer and it's it's

567
00:21:50,450 --> 00:21:48,000
strange because yeah this is one of

568
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:50,460
those instances where it seems as if

569
00:21:55,789 --> 00:21:52,799
people involved or at least interested

570
00:21:58,250 --> 00:21:55,799
in this phenomena are actually being the

571
00:22:00,049 --> 00:21:58,260
rational ones at this point and it seems

572
00:22:03,409 --> 00:22:00,059
that the mainstream is the one that's

573
00:22:05,630 --> 00:22:03,419
not being able to Pal like deal with it

574
00:22:08,270 --> 00:22:05,640
um something I find very very

575
00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:08,280
interesting is the descriptions or lack

576
00:22:12,110 --> 00:22:09,900
thereof

577
00:22:14,450 --> 00:22:12,120
um it there are descriptions that are

578
00:22:18,049 --> 00:22:14,460
very tic-tac-like I've heard possibly

579
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:18,059
possibly even crystalline or glass like

580
00:22:25,130 --> 00:22:21,840
substance obviously no uh

581
00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:25,140
no obvious signs of propulsion and some

582
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:26,640
are even saying they have strings

583
00:22:33,649 --> 00:22:29,520
hanging off of them very zeppelin-like

584
00:22:35,149 --> 00:22:33,659
uh there's there's a wide variety of

585
00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:35,159
descriptions and some of those are

586
00:22:39,289 --> 00:22:36,539
coming from other countries like Canada

587
00:22:42,409 --> 00:22:39,299
as many people know one was shot down

588
00:22:45,230 --> 00:22:42,419
over there and there is

589
00:22:49,010 --> 00:22:45,240
another strange thing taking place which

590
00:22:51,529 --> 00:22:49,020
is the possible malfunction of some of

591
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,539
the fighter pilots instrumentation have

592
00:22:56,029 --> 00:22:53,520
you heard anything in uh

593
00:22:58,610 --> 00:22:56,039
in your research

594
00:23:00,289 --> 00:22:58,620
yeah that was the main report we were

595
00:23:02,510 --> 00:23:00,299
really getting excited about that came

596
00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:02,520
from CNN maybe other places too but I

597
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:04,440
heard it from CNN and they were talking

598
00:23:08,029 --> 00:23:06,240
about you know sensors malfunctioning

599
00:23:10,250 --> 00:23:08,039
and we were thinking about jamming we're

600
00:23:11,649 --> 00:23:10,260
thinking about the Tic Tac incident you

601
00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:11,659
know where um

602
00:23:16,370 --> 00:23:13,860
sensors may have been jammed or may have

603
00:23:17,529 --> 00:23:16,380
not been but it was a part of the claim

604
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:17,539
and um

605
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:20,880
uh you know and I would talk to my uh

606
00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:23,520
drone um defense reporters over the

607
00:23:26,810 --> 00:23:24,720
years too and they would say oh well

608
00:23:29,630 --> 00:23:26,820
that's possible you know there is sensor

609
00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:29,640
jamming you know just among humans you

610
00:23:32,990 --> 00:23:31,020
know it can't happen so we have to keep

611
00:23:34,669 --> 00:23:33,000
that into consideration also but yeah

612
00:23:37,130 --> 00:23:34,679
there's sensor jamming there's weird

613
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:37,140
shapes the propulsion is an issue

614
00:23:41,330 --> 00:23:38,880
they're not being able to identify it

615
00:23:42,890 --> 00:23:41,340
now the general said it was because the

616
00:23:44,570 --> 00:23:42,900
fighter jets and other planes are moving

617
00:23:46,909 --> 00:23:44,580
too fast and these objects are moving

618
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:46,919
very slowly and they're small so it's

619
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:48,840
hard to get eyes on them one thing I've

620
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,840
noticed here is um I'm seeing stark

621
00:23:55,789 --> 00:23:53,840
contrast between

622
00:23:58,130 --> 00:23:55,799
these events what we're hearing about

623
00:24:00,169 --> 00:23:58,140
these events and what we've heard from

624
00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,179
people like Elizondo

625
00:24:04,430 --> 00:24:02,159
um over the last five years

626
00:24:06,110 --> 00:24:04,440
um for example Elizondo had a quote many

627
00:24:08,450 --> 00:24:06,120
years ago I dug it up I remembered it

628
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:08,460
was from like 2018 and he was saying

629
00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:10,080
there's basically technology where we

630
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,419
can see uh where we're able to figure

631
00:24:16,610 --> 00:24:14,400
out what type of drone it is what you

632
00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:16,620
know what you know in spotted

633
00:24:21,049 --> 00:24:19,260
immediately and and basically Alexander

634
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:21,059
was saying that there wasn't shouldn't

635
00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:23,820
be much uh problems with identification

636
00:24:26,450 --> 00:24:25,080
and now we're having all these problems

637
00:24:28,669 --> 00:24:26,460
with identification so I don't know if

638
00:24:30,169 --> 00:24:28,679
it's different technology going on or

639
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,179
what but um they're claiming that

640
00:24:33,890 --> 00:24:32,400
they're unable to identify these I don't

641
00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:33,900
want to jump to conclusions with that

642
00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:35,580
that automatically means it's you know

643
00:24:40,669 --> 00:24:37,679
quote unquote UFO like we want it to be

644
00:24:44,510 --> 00:24:40,679
but um yeah it's just a difference in

645
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,520
what we've heard on how good the

646
00:24:48,289 --> 00:24:46,559
uh you know the pilot observers are and

647
00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:48,299
I'm sure they're amazing but you know we

648
00:24:53,149 --> 00:24:51,240
were also kind of uh hinted at that you

649
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:53,159
know Pilots are able to identify these

650
00:24:56,029 --> 00:24:54,480
things and they're great at it and we

651
00:24:57,770 --> 00:24:56,039
should be listening to them and maybe

652
00:24:59,570 --> 00:24:57,780
they are but then again over the last

653
00:25:01,970 --> 00:24:59,580
week or two they've been having trouble

654
00:25:03,289 --> 00:25:01,980
identifying stuff so I don't know if

655
00:25:04,610 --> 00:25:03,299
we're getting you know just kind of

656
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:04,620
different opinions on how things should

657
00:25:07,789 --> 00:25:06,000
be working

658
00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:07,799
um or what exactly but I'm just noticing

659
00:25:11,690 --> 00:25:10,140
these big differences now

660
00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:11,700
um and we're noticing a big a lot of

661
00:25:16,490 --> 00:25:14,100
problems with kind of um

662
00:25:18,289 --> 00:25:16,500
how uh things are tracked and things

663
00:25:20,750 --> 00:25:18,299
like that and melon Chris melon has been

664
00:25:22,430 --> 00:25:20,760
making that really clear as well so we

665
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,440
just don't have a handle on the airspace

666
00:25:26,930 --> 00:25:24,480
and everyone's been screaming that in

667
00:25:29,210 --> 00:25:26,940
the UAP Community defense reporters have

668
00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:29,220
been streaming that for a while and um

669
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,539
it's just interesting now that they're

670
00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:31,919
finally getting the handle on all this

671
00:25:36,590 --> 00:25:33,120
kind of stuff

672
00:25:38,990 --> 00:25:36,600
yeah and it's really important I for for

673
00:25:40,850 --> 00:25:39,000
listeners who aren't familiar with Chris

674
00:25:42,289 --> 00:25:40,860
Mellon he's a former Defense of

675
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:42,299
intelligence official under the Clinton

676
00:25:47,390 --> 00:25:45,120
and Bush administrations and is probably

677
00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:47,400
one of the most important people if not

678
00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:50,100
the most important person in this Echo

679
00:25:56,570 --> 00:25:51,960
chamber because

680
00:25:58,850 --> 00:25:56,580
he he knows about the existence of

681
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,860
well I got to be careful here I guess we

682
00:26:03,769 --> 00:26:00,480
all have to be a little careful here but

683
00:26:07,070 --> 00:26:03,779
he he has been in those rooms those

684
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:07,080
closed door meetings he is aware of

685
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,080
recovered craft and I guess that brings

686
00:26:16,850 --> 00:26:12,240
me to the next question

687
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:16,860
what if this UAP or UFO phenomena is

688
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:19,440
much simpler than we think it is is that

689
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,600
a possibility

690
00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:23,520
it could be and I don't know if

691
00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:26,820
melon knows of like UFO retrievals um he

692
00:26:31,010 --> 00:26:28,799
kind of he tries to stay away from it he

693
00:26:32,510 --> 00:26:31,020
watches what he says he basically speaks

694
00:26:35,450 --> 00:26:32,520
like a politician anytime he's talking

695
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:35,460
and he doesn't do a lot of uh he does

696
00:26:39,649 --> 00:26:37,679
interviews but he doesn't do them super

697
00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:39,659
candidly you know you know like we see

698
00:26:45,289 --> 00:26:42,360
Lou Elizondo doing at times and things

699
00:26:47,870 --> 00:26:45,299
like that he did a melon also did a

700
00:26:49,549 --> 00:26:47,880
interview before 2017 before to the

701
00:26:51,529 --> 00:26:49,559
Stars Academy happened with Leslie Kane

702
00:26:53,149 --> 00:26:51,539
that's the one I was thinking a lot of

703
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:53,159
stuff yeah that's the one I was thinking

704
00:26:59,149 --> 00:26:56,400
of you're get you're good yeah and he um

705
00:27:01,310 --> 00:26:59,159
he has kind of contradicted himself now

706
00:27:02,149 --> 00:27:01,320
as sounding more like a Believer so I

707
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:02,159
don't know

708
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,080
he he had a lot of access so I don't

709
00:27:08,570 --> 00:27:06,240
know exactly what he thinks Alexander

710
00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:08,580
has ended a lot more directly

711
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,559
um of things

712
00:27:15,409 --> 00:27:12,720
um I'm sorry what was your question just

713
00:27:18,350 --> 00:27:15,419
if if this might be it's it sounds

714
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:18,360
simple but what if I guess my question

715
00:27:24,110 --> 00:27:21,120
is what if this is much simpler than

716
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:24,120
what a lot of people are assuming and I

717
00:27:29,330 --> 00:27:25,200
don't want to go

718
00:27:32,269 --> 00:27:29,340
again off on a tangent but I've heard of

719
00:27:34,970 --> 00:27:32,279
other writers and authors researchers

720
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:34,980
and investigators speaking of possible

721
00:27:41,649 --> 00:27:37,440
simple almost amoeba-like plasma

722
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:45,230
biological flying organisms that are

723
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:47,520
just not known about mainstream again it

724
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:51,179
sounds very science fictiony to me but

725
00:27:55,490 --> 00:27:52,559
it's something that I've been reading

726
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:55,500
about in the review of some of the

727
00:28:00,049 --> 00:27:57,600
research and you know it does kind of

728
00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:00,059
make me put tap the brakes a little and

729
00:28:05,630 --> 00:28:03,960
say well it's obvious that Chris Mellon

730
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:05,640
is right and these other guys are right

731
00:28:10,730 --> 00:28:08,159
that these UFOs for lack of a better

732
00:28:12,830 --> 00:28:10,740
word unidentified flying objects exist

733
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:12,840
so I guess the next question is what are

734
00:28:18,590 --> 00:28:16,620
they and everybody always rushes to you

735
00:28:22,390 --> 00:28:18,600
know the end of of the of the football

736
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:22,400
field expecting you know a super high

737
00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:25,440
technological alien intelligence that

738
00:28:31,070 --> 00:28:28,620
far surpasses our abilities and that may

739
00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:31,080
not necessarily be the case but I don't

740
00:28:37,010 --> 00:28:34,200
know I have no information on that

741
00:28:38,690 --> 00:28:37,020
yeah and I still think that that's

742
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:38,700
what's going on with some of them I

743
00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:40,559
haven't heard too much about the uh like

744
00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:42,360
the biological like you were saying like

745
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:43,799
animals type of thing I've heard that

746
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:45,600
floated over the years just that

747
00:28:48,649 --> 00:28:47,039
speculation but I don't know too much

748
00:28:51,409 --> 00:28:48,659
about that to me the simple answer would

749
00:28:53,630 --> 00:28:51,419
be you know it's another country's uh

750
00:28:54,350 --> 00:28:53,640
spying you know drones and things like

751
00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:54,360
that

752
00:28:58,370 --> 00:28:56,460
um and then there's the other situation

753
00:29:00,769 --> 00:28:58,380
where it's like you know something else

754
00:29:02,510 --> 00:29:00,779
I don't know I you know there's a lot of

755
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:02,520
people that really have talked about

756
00:29:08,570 --> 00:29:05,120
bodies like the pop culture

757
00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:08,580
UFO description as being accurate and

758
00:29:14,450 --> 00:29:10,140
that always throws me for a loop it's

759
00:29:16,909 --> 00:29:14,460
amazing to me how the basic pop culture

760
00:29:18,110 --> 00:29:16,919
idea of UFOs and aliens now not

761
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:18,120
necessarily coming from other planets

762
00:29:21,889 --> 00:29:20,159
that's one thing that we um

763
00:29:23,389 --> 00:29:21,899
differentiate in the UFO Community they

764
00:29:26,930 --> 00:29:23,399
may be coming from Earth

765
00:29:28,669 --> 00:29:26,940
but that seems to me to be true

766
00:29:31,310 --> 00:29:28,679
um and I've just it trips me out that

767
00:29:33,889 --> 00:29:31,320
pop culture kind of had these rumors and

768
00:29:37,010 --> 00:29:33,899
knew about this for decades and decades

769
00:29:39,289 --> 00:29:37,020
and it seems to be the case um to me now

770
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:39,299
do I know that for sure no but we've

771
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:40,799
heard um

772
00:29:46,850 --> 00:29:44,640
you know you know Lou basically came out

773
00:29:48,350 --> 00:29:46,860
and said he thinks Roswell is real

774
00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:48,360
um if you read between lines at least

775
00:29:53,870 --> 00:29:51,299
and uh if roswell's real then you know

776
00:29:54,529 --> 00:29:53,880
it would be like a crafting buddies and

777
00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:54,539
um

778
00:29:58,909 --> 00:29:56,700
I think that's probably what the secret

779
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:58,919
programs have is pieces of craft and

780
00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:01,200
bodies or some sort of biological

781
00:30:04,850 --> 00:30:03,480
evidence some think some people think

782
00:30:07,250 --> 00:30:04,860
they have whole craft I heard it was

783
00:30:08,990 --> 00:30:07,260
pieces I don't know for sure

784
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:09,000
um so I think that's probably it but but

785
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:10,559
it also could be a number of things so

786
00:30:13,310 --> 00:30:11,760
it could be also what you were talking

787
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:13,320
about

788
00:30:16,909 --> 00:30:15,120
um but yeah to me the simple answer is

789
00:30:18,769 --> 00:30:16,919
just it's another country doing spite

790
00:30:21,169 --> 00:30:18,779
with spycraft

791
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:21,179
I think you're right for the record uh

792
00:30:24,830 --> 00:30:22,559
especially from a national security

793
00:30:26,810 --> 00:30:24,840
standpoint and the fact of just

794
00:30:30,110 --> 00:30:26,820
everything that's kind of been going on

795
00:30:32,570 --> 00:30:30,120
lately you know they do seem and by they

796
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:32,580
I mean other countries China and Russia

797
00:30:36,730 --> 00:30:34,080
do seem very

798
00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:36,740
interested in our military capabilities

799
00:30:43,730 --> 00:30:40,740
and we are you know in in some proxy

800
00:30:46,909 --> 00:30:43,740
sense involved with the conflict over in

801
00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:46,919
Ukraine so I mean it makes sense that

802
00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:49,980
they would want to have an idea of our

803
00:30:54,350 --> 00:30:52,140
military assets

804
00:30:57,169 --> 00:30:54,360
um as to what exactly is taking place

805
00:30:59,570 --> 00:30:57,179
and activity there and some of these

806
00:31:03,409 --> 00:30:59,580
areas that these have been spotted over

807
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:03,419
are over military assets you know so I

808
00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:07,200
I'm with you on that is there you know

809
00:31:11,570 --> 00:31:10,200
another very strange coincidence and I

810
00:31:14,570 --> 00:31:11,580
don't know this is getting a lot of

811
00:31:18,909 --> 00:31:14,580
attention in conspiracy circles but it

812
00:31:23,149 --> 00:31:18,919
is the derailment of a train in Ohio

813
00:31:27,649 --> 00:31:23,159
and it was a massive I believe polyvinyl

814
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:27,659
chemical leak and uh have you heard

815
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,000
about that or heard any Rumblings as to

816
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:32,880
whether that may or may not be involved

817
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:35,760
if that could be a terrorist event or if

818
00:31:39,289 --> 00:31:37,500
there's some kind of if somebody might

819
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:39,299
be running cover on that I've heard

820
00:31:44,330 --> 00:31:41,460
they're cleaning it up a lot under the

821
00:31:45,769 --> 00:31:44,340
cover of darkness which in all actuality

822
00:31:49,370 --> 00:31:45,779
I mean they're probably doing it

823
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:49,380
non-stop 24 7. so even working at night

824
00:31:53,810 --> 00:31:51,840
but from a conspiracy standpoint I'm

825
00:31:56,029 --> 00:31:53,820
hearing a lot of Rumblings about this

826
00:31:57,710 --> 00:31:56,039
Ohio Chemical leak have you heard

827
00:31:59,630 --> 00:31:57,720
anything about this

828
00:32:01,490 --> 00:31:59,640
I have heard absolutely nothing about

829
00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:01,500
that and it's intriguing when what did

830
00:32:07,549 --> 00:32:04,200
this happen recently yeah it was strange

831
00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:07,559
because it almost happened at just right

832
00:32:13,610 --> 00:32:10,200
in the middle of all these sightings and

833
00:32:15,649 --> 00:32:13,620
I also thought it was interesting that I

834
00:32:17,810 --> 00:32:15,659
believe I could be wrong on this

835
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:17,820
obviously we had the Super Bowl and you

836
00:32:21,950 --> 00:32:20,159
can't stop that but I believe the press

837
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:21,960
conference took place right around the

838
00:32:25,730 --> 00:32:23,760
same time if I'm not mistaken is that

839
00:32:27,769 --> 00:32:25,740
true

840
00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:27,779
the um the shoot Downs yeah it was

841
00:32:31,630 --> 00:32:29,100
during the Super Bowl yep with the

842
00:32:34,850 --> 00:32:31,640
general yeah so that that seems super

843
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:34,860
difficult at least you know for someone

844
00:32:39,769 --> 00:32:36,960
like myself who's very interested in

845
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:39,779
that it's like dang it we have we have

846
00:32:43,389 --> 00:32:41,600
this amazing

847
00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:43,399
amazing

848
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:46,620
debrief on live television and of course

849
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:48,960
it's during the Super Bowl so nobody's

850
00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:51,360
watching it

851
00:32:54,649 --> 00:32:53,340
yeah I think it was Audio Only but it

852
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:54,659
was being streamed but yeah it was

853
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,399
during the Super Bowl people were

854
00:33:00,889 --> 00:32:58,799
um you know bringing that up and one of

855
00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:00,899
the conspiracies that a lot of people in

856
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:02,460
the UFO Community are concerned about

857
00:33:06,169 --> 00:33:03,840
since you were talking about

858
00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:06,179
conspiracies is that um

859
00:33:09,289 --> 00:33:07,620
and I don't know that this is the case

860
00:33:11,930 --> 00:33:09,299
at all but it may be kind of an effect

861
00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:11,940
of what's going on is that there's going

862
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:14,279
to be shoot downs and it's kind of what

863
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:15,600
the Drone guys are claiming right now

864
00:33:20,509 --> 00:33:18,720
that there are these odd drones and

865
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:20,519
um they're going to try to attribute all

866
00:33:26,029 --> 00:33:23,279
of this to China and they're going to

867
00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:26,039
try to save all the UFO stuff all the

868
00:33:30,110 --> 00:33:27,480
UFO things we've been hearing for five

869
00:33:31,549 --> 00:33:30,120
years it's all drones none of it is

870
00:33:34,210 --> 00:33:31,559
quote unquote aliens or whatever you

871
00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:34,220
want to call it and it's all these um

872
00:33:39,470 --> 00:33:37,260
smaller weirder hard to identify drones

873
00:33:40,669 --> 00:33:39,480
because some of these do match up and

874
00:33:42,049 --> 00:33:40,679
they're going to say that the what the

875
00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:42,059
pilots were seeing were all man-made

876
00:33:47,570 --> 00:33:45,000
drones so that's one of the concerns in

877
00:33:49,490 --> 00:33:47,580
the UFO Community right now that it's

878
00:33:53,330 --> 00:33:49,500
going to be kind of changing public

879
00:33:55,370 --> 00:33:53,340
opinion or DC's opinion

880
00:33:56,930 --> 00:33:55,380
um but at the same time we're hearing

881
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,940
all kinds of other things about DC and

882
00:33:59,630 --> 00:33:58,559
whistleblowers so hopefully that's going

883
00:34:02,269 --> 00:33:59,640
on too

884
00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:02,279
yeah there's a lot there's so much going

885
00:34:07,370 --> 00:34:04,500
on and then we have this uh out of

886
00:34:10,570 --> 00:34:07,380
Honolulu we have over Hawaii these

887
00:34:13,450 --> 00:34:10,580
strange lasers that coincidentally are

888
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:13,460
recorded the footage is pretty amazing

889
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,960
and it seems as if it is in fact a

890
00:34:23,810 --> 00:34:21,119
Chinese satellite however

891
00:34:25,970 --> 00:34:23,820
it seems to be that it is I believe

892
00:34:27,889 --> 00:34:25,980
rented from NASA or something along

893
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:27,899
those lines have you heard about this at

894
00:34:31,250 --> 00:34:29,280
all and what are your thoughts over the

895
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:31,260
lasers I thought story on that and I

896
00:34:34,430 --> 00:34:32,580
have not looked into it someone was

897
00:34:36,169 --> 00:34:34,440
saying it was a link to starlink but I

898
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,179
really haven't gotten into that at all

899
00:34:40,909 --> 00:34:38,399
yeah that looks really cool that

900
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:40,919
technology looks amazing I guess it's

901
00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:43,440
some sort of lidar or you know it

902
00:34:48,349 --> 00:34:45,960
literally is mapping the ground but then

903
00:34:49,790 --> 00:34:48,359
it begs the question you know why would

904
00:34:52,070 --> 00:34:49,800
China be and I could be getting this

905
00:34:53,930 --> 00:34:52,080
wrong I don't want to hang myself here

906
00:34:56,210 --> 00:34:53,940
but why would China be using NASA

907
00:34:58,609 --> 00:34:56,220
technology or NASA rented technology but

908
00:35:01,490 --> 00:34:58,619
then again you know when it comes to

909
00:35:03,890 --> 00:35:01,500
space it does seem as if there is sort

910
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:03,900
of an open door policy at least there

911
00:35:08,510 --> 00:35:07,440
there has been in the past and it I

912
00:35:11,569 --> 00:35:08,520
don't know if that's going to continue

913
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:11,579
what are your thoughts there

914
00:35:16,370 --> 00:35:14,880
space is insane and I uh there was a

915
00:35:18,530 --> 00:35:16,380
story and I didn't

916
00:35:20,329 --> 00:35:18,540
um I think I passed it up because I was

917
00:35:21,950 --> 00:35:20,339
doing all this other shoot down stuff

918
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:21,960
but there was a story about a Russian

919
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:24,960
secret satellite blowing up recently who

920
00:35:27,290 --> 00:35:26,760
knows what's going on up there there's

921
00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:27,300
um

922
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:30,180
there's uh all kinds of uh secret

923
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:32,160
satellites going on there may be Wars in

924
00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:34,079
space you know I don't know if I it's

925
00:35:37,609 --> 00:35:35,640
not like guys running around but we may

926
00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:37,619
be shooting down satellites regularly

927
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:39,960
other countries may be doing it we would

928
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:41,760
probably never know about it you know

929
00:35:45,290 --> 00:35:43,680
one thing that's always funny to me and

930
00:35:46,910 --> 00:35:45,300
I don't have any sources on this it's

931
00:35:48,650 --> 00:35:46,920
just kind of a common sense thing to me

932
00:35:50,210 --> 00:35:48,660
you know we hear people like Stephen

933
00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:50,220
Greer

934
00:35:55,010 --> 00:35:52,260
um and just others that are anti-war

935
00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:55,020
anti-violence say we can't have uh

936
00:35:59,150 --> 00:35:57,180
weapons in space don't put weapons in

937
00:36:01,310 --> 00:35:59,160
space don't put weapons in space and to

938
00:36:02,569 --> 00:36:01,320
me um if I had to guess it would seem

939
00:36:04,190 --> 00:36:02,579
obvious that they've had weapons in

940
00:36:06,589 --> 00:36:04,200
space probably like since the 80s or

941
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:06,599
earlier so I think that's a done deal we

942
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:08,160
have weapons in space already in my

943
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:09,359
opinion

944
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,960
yeah and you know I mean it I think you

945
00:36:16,490 --> 00:36:14,640
know you're right I think they've been

946
00:36:19,370 --> 00:36:16,500
there whether we're aware of it or not

947
00:36:21,230 --> 00:36:19,380
I've heard rumors just these these are

948
00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:21,240
just Rumblings from people that should

949
00:36:25,069 --> 00:36:22,440
be in the know

950
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:25,079
that space force has a fleet of

951
00:36:31,130 --> 00:36:28,800
something like 77 x 37bs which just

952
00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:31,140
sounds so mind-boggling to me and

953
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,700
they're up there doing something among

954
00:36:36,770 --> 00:36:34,560
other things it could be checking for

955
00:36:40,190 --> 00:36:36,780
weaponization I'm not sure I kind of

956
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:40,200
like the Robert Bigelow angle of you

957
00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:41,760
know let's just get a casino in space

958
00:36:46,490 --> 00:36:43,740
and everything will work out

959
00:36:49,370 --> 00:36:46,500
um arguably I think that's a great uh a

960
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:49,380
great angle but most Americans are not

961
00:36:54,650 --> 00:36:52,320
aware that this that President Biden

962
00:36:58,130 --> 00:36:54,660
just signed into law this new

963
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:58,140
legislation that basically Christopher

964
00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:00,960
Mellon has been speaking about and I

965
00:37:05,210 --> 00:37:03,180
think as you mentioned this can be very

966
00:37:08,930 --> 00:37:05,220
relevant in what we are going to be

967
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,940
seeing in the in the close future

968
00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:10,320
are you talking about the National

969
00:37:14,510 --> 00:37:11,820
Defense authorization act The

970
00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:14,520
Whistleblower stuff and all that mm-hmm

971
00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:16,680
yeah I mean that's huge and it's weird

972
00:37:21,770 --> 00:37:19,140
timing that these shoot Downs in this

973
00:37:24,170 --> 00:37:21,780
heightened push of being aware of drones

974
00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:24,180
that's happening at the same time that

975
00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:25,800
we're hearing that there's all this um

976
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:27,000
progress going on with the

977
00:37:31,730 --> 00:37:29,280
whistleblowers so it is weird it's

978
00:37:33,950 --> 00:37:31,740
really really weird timing going back to

979
00:37:36,770 --> 00:37:33,960
um Bigelow really quick in space

980
00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:36,780
um you know uh the rumor was and of

981
00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:38,700
course it's not proven that possibly

982
00:37:42,770 --> 00:37:40,200
some of the crash debris we've seen from

983
00:37:46,609 --> 00:37:42,780
UFOs over the decades may have been made

984
00:37:48,349 --> 00:37:46,619
in like zero gravity environments and uh

985
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,359
you know for a while there when bigger

986
00:37:52,130 --> 00:37:50,640
Bigelow Aerospace was still going they

987
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:52,140
were basically trying to do if I'm not

988
00:37:55,849 --> 00:37:54,480
mistaken the manufacturing plants in

989
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:55,859
space so they could have zero gravity

990
00:37:59,210 --> 00:37:57,839
manufacturing apparently there's a lot

991
00:38:01,790 --> 00:37:59,220
of benefits to zero gravity

992
00:38:02,569 --> 00:38:01,800
manufacturing so I just I always found

993
00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:02,579
that

994
00:38:06,890 --> 00:38:04,500
um interesting but I guess it never uh

995
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:06,900
came to fruition unfortunately

996
00:38:12,109 --> 00:38:09,660
yeah it is you know I know he definitely

997
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:12,119
if anybody could do it he was definitely

998
00:38:19,069 --> 00:38:15,599
in a position to be able to dip his toe

999
00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:19,079
in the pool and that process alone would

1000
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:22,740
I mean what an undertaking but anyway uh

1001
00:38:28,609 --> 00:38:25,200
back back to government whistleblowers

1002
00:38:31,250 --> 00:38:28,619
and the possibility that government

1003
00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:31,260
entities have been concealing proof of

1004
00:38:36,170 --> 00:38:33,359
an extraterrestrial presence

1005
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:36,180
here or near Earth

1006
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,460
what are your thoughts on that is there

1007
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:40,560
you know we we all know about the case

1008
00:38:46,910 --> 00:38:44,400
of Bob Lazar and I think you mentioned

1009
00:38:50,329 --> 00:38:46,920
Roswell but there are a lot of other

1010
00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:50,339
examples to that aren't there

1011
00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:51,180
yeah

1012
00:38:56,990 --> 00:38:54,000
um in my view there's been crashes

1013
00:38:58,670 --> 00:38:57,000
um and you know people argue about this

1014
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:58,680
on social media all the time you know we

1015
00:39:02,089 --> 00:39:00,240
say things like that and people get mad

1016
00:39:04,849 --> 00:39:02,099
they say give us proof and but you know

1017
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:04,859
I'm just talking of what I think and um

1018
00:39:09,530 --> 00:39:07,440
and what I hear and things people that I

1019
00:39:12,349 --> 00:39:09,540
trust and all that do I have proof of it

1020
00:39:15,290 --> 00:39:12,359
no I think uh there has probably been

1021
00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:15,300
bodies maybe that's even extra weird but

1022
00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:16,500
um I think there's definitely been

1023
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:18,540
crashes I think like I was saying some

1024
00:39:24,109 --> 00:39:21,660
of this pop culture idea of UFO's secret

1025
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:24,119
government stuff is actually true

1026
00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:26,160
um and it has been for many decades and

1027
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:28,920
it's been in the pop culture uh you know

1028
00:39:33,230 --> 00:39:30,960
mine for many decades as well which is

1029
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:33,240
just fascinating on how it leaked and

1030
00:39:36,829 --> 00:39:35,280
it's funny too a sidebar people say oh

1031
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,839
well if it's a big secret you know they

1032
00:39:40,190 --> 00:39:37,920
wouldn't have been able to keep a secret

1033
00:39:44,210 --> 00:39:40,200
well I guess they didn't because it was

1034
00:39:48,770 --> 00:39:46,490
yeah and I think uh I think a lot of

1035
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:48,780
this is true I think I was um actually

1036
00:39:54,170 --> 00:39:52,320
asking around I was started hearing that

1037
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:54,180
what we're worrying about is you know

1038
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,119
the Wilson Davis situation where people

1039
00:40:02,450 --> 00:39:59,280
aren't aware of it there was a an

1040
00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:02,460
alleged meeting with a scientist and an

1041
00:40:07,609 --> 00:40:05,640
admiral and the Admiral told uh the

1042
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:07,619
scientist and the scientist was writing

1043
00:40:12,770 --> 00:40:09,540
notes about it that

1044
00:40:15,410 --> 00:40:12,780
um or recording I don't know uh that the

1045
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:15,420
Admiral was tipped off found some of

1046
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:17,520
these secret UFO programs the real deep

1047
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:20,400
ones and he was told to kick rocks and

1048
00:40:23,210 --> 00:40:21,839
he didn't have access and he was like

1049
00:40:25,970 --> 00:40:23,220
this huge guy

1050
00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:25,980
and um so I was worried that that

1051
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:28,140
scenario has been going on over and over

1052
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:31,200
again I haven't read the new valet book

1053
00:40:35,870 --> 00:40:32,940
um Forbidden Science I think it's number

1054
00:40:37,310 --> 00:40:35,880
five or something like that but um uh I

1055
00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:37,320
think there I saw some quotes in there

1056
00:40:40,130 --> 00:40:38,700
and he was kind of talking about other

1057
00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:40,140
people that were had the same

1058
00:40:43,370 --> 00:40:41,820
experiences

1059
00:40:46,250 --> 00:40:43,380
um or even people that kind of were able

1060
00:40:49,130 --> 00:40:46,260
to gain access but not able to

1061
00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:49,140
um you know uh basically prove it to

1062
00:40:52,310 --> 00:40:50,760
anyone

1063
00:40:53,810 --> 00:40:52,320
um I'm not sure exactly what's going on

1064
00:40:55,730 --> 00:40:53,820
but

1065
00:40:57,170 --> 00:40:55,740
I was worried that this Wilson scenario

1066
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:57,180
keeps happening over and over again and

1067
00:41:02,390 --> 00:40:58,800
maybe it has been for decades where

1068
00:41:04,910 --> 00:41:02,400
people would find these uh programs and

1069
00:41:07,310 --> 00:41:04,920
they would be told to go away you know

1070
00:41:08,810 --> 00:41:07,320
you're not on the bigot list and sorry

1071
00:41:10,130 --> 00:41:08,820
and all this kind of thing and I was

1072
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:10,140
worried that was happening currently

1073
00:41:14,270 --> 00:41:12,720
with the Whistleblower situation

1074
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:14,280
um I was thinking about writing a Blog

1075
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,800
on it I actually had part of it written

1076
00:41:20,450 --> 00:41:18,960
I started asking around more and then I

1077
00:41:21,890 --> 00:41:20,460
talked to some other people and they

1078
00:41:23,569 --> 00:41:21,900
were saying you know that they think the

1079
00:41:27,470 --> 00:41:23,579
Whistleblower thing is very successful

1080
00:41:29,690 --> 00:41:27,480
and it's in the National Defense

1081
00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:29,700
authorization act for a reason uh it's

1082
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:31,260
there because whistleblowers were on

1083
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:33,119
Deck ready to talk and they needed

1084
00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:34,079
protection

1085
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,820
so I scrapped my whole blog I haven't

1086
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:37,680
been writing a lot recently at all I've

1087
00:41:41,329 --> 00:41:39,119
just been like a talking head on social

1088
00:41:43,609 --> 00:41:41,339
media and um I was about to write this

1089
00:41:44,810 --> 00:41:43,619
blog uh finish it and I scrapped it and

1090
00:41:47,150 --> 00:41:44,820
now I'm positive about the whole

1091
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:47,160
situation again and I think the

1092
00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:49,680
Whistleblower stuff is working

1093
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,180
um I don't know for sure it's just

1094
00:41:54,410 --> 00:41:53,280
something I heard and I'm really excited

1095
00:41:57,650 --> 00:41:54,420
about that

1096
00:42:00,890 --> 00:41:57,660
and that's huge huge news so let's say

1097
00:42:03,890 --> 00:42:00,900
Congress has gained access to

1098
00:42:05,450 --> 00:42:03,900
some of these special access programs

1099
00:42:08,930 --> 00:42:05,460
um they know they're there they know

1100
00:42:11,089 --> 00:42:08,940
UFOs exist uh maybe even bodies who

1101
00:42:12,770 --> 00:42:11,099
knows my big question now is what are

1102
00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:12,780
they going to do with it

1103
00:42:16,849 --> 00:42:15,060
um supposedly you know good things that

1104
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:16,859
may be happening but we're gonna have to

1105
00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:18,240
wait and see I mean it could all get

1106
00:42:21,710 --> 00:42:20,160
squashed Biden can say

1107
00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:21,720
maybe they finally found out the truth

1108
00:42:25,069 --> 00:42:23,640
and then they um

1109
00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:25,079
and now they're scared because they

1110
00:42:27,890 --> 00:42:26,760
actually found out the truth and now

1111
00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:27,900
they're deciding they don't want to tell

1112
00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:29,460
the American public so I don't know

1113
00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:31,140
there's a lot of these uh threads going

1114
00:42:34,430 --> 00:42:33,540
and now with the shoot Downs overlapping

1115
00:42:38,030 --> 00:42:34,440
it

1116
00:42:39,170 --> 00:42:38,040
kind of different subjects but at the

1117
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:39,180
same time

1118
00:42:44,569 --> 00:42:42,000
it's it's they're kind of similar

1119
00:42:46,670 --> 00:42:44,579
yeah and you touched on one of my

1120
00:42:50,089 --> 00:42:46,680
favorite topics which is the Wilson

1121
00:42:52,910 --> 00:42:50,099
Davis memo and I mean when it comes to

1122
00:42:54,829 --> 00:42:52,920
this whistleblower legislation

1123
00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:54,839
Dr Davis

1124
00:43:00,349 --> 00:42:58,160
Dr Eric Davis is not the type of

1125
00:43:04,609 --> 00:43:00,359
astrophysicist to be out there talking

1126
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:04,619
about things and Uh I that this all came

1127
00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:08,640
about in a very interesting way and I

1128
00:43:14,089 --> 00:43:10,859
think that although a lot of the things

1129
00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:14,099
I'm sure will remain highly classified

1130
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:16,980
the good news is that I think a lot of

1131
00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:21,359
the debunkers are going to be forced to

1132
00:43:26,089 --> 00:43:24,060
kind of retroactively kind of back down

1133
00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:26,099
because there have been so many

1134
00:43:33,230 --> 00:43:29,400
debunkers when it comes to any

1135
00:43:35,630 --> 00:43:33,240
information that had to do with the

1136
00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:35,640
Wilson Davis memo and many of the

1137
00:43:40,670 --> 00:43:38,460
government programs and it seems as if

1138
00:43:43,069 --> 00:43:40,680
it I I think it would be in our best

1139
00:43:46,670 --> 00:43:43,079
interest to exploit recovered technology

1140
00:43:49,790 --> 00:43:46,680
no matter where it came from and

1141
00:43:51,950 --> 00:43:49,800
it's I I kind of I'm waiting for the day

1142
00:43:54,530 --> 00:43:51,960
when I you know I don't I don't want to

1143
00:43:56,990 --> 00:43:54,540
prove a point but I just think that

1144
00:44:00,530 --> 00:43:57,000
without any evidence to be debunking

1145
00:44:04,010 --> 00:44:00,540
everything that comes out is not really

1146
00:44:05,870 --> 00:44:04,020
a way to be in an open discourse and

1147
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:05,880
kind of getting to the open discourse

1148
00:44:11,150 --> 00:44:09,599
and connections to astrophysicist Dr

1149
00:44:13,010 --> 00:44:11,160
Davis

1150
00:44:16,490 --> 00:44:13,020
um how putoff has been doing these Tech

1151
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,500
survey studies for years and many of the

1152
00:44:21,770 --> 00:44:18,720
things that have been at the top of his

1153
00:44:25,250 --> 00:44:21,780
list are sort of at the Forefront of

1154
00:44:28,910 --> 00:44:25,260
what is taking place now and

1155
00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:28,920
um laser lightcraft Nano satellites uh

1156
00:44:34,130 --> 00:44:30,900
detection and high resolution tracking

1157
00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:34,140
of vehicles Hypersonic velocities this

1158
00:44:41,150 --> 00:44:37,220
is all stuff that he was cognitively

1159
00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:41,160
trying to research investigate and

1160
00:44:45,950 --> 00:44:43,560
promote to government entities because

1161
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:45,960
it does kind of seem as if

1162
00:44:50,329 --> 00:44:48,000
the people we are talking about were

1163
00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:50,339
aware of the process and they knew that

1164
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:51,900
this day was coming does it seem that

1165
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:57,410
they've definitely been working on this

1166
00:45:00,290 --> 00:44:58,800
um working on different things and I

1167
00:45:02,089 --> 00:45:00,300
mean these guys are genius scientists

1168
00:45:04,849 --> 00:45:02,099
and they also happen to believe in UAP

1169
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:04,859
and kind of study characteristics of UAP

1170
00:45:08,750 --> 00:45:07,200
and I think they try to figure out how

1171
00:45:11,089 --> 00:45:08,760
they work you know there's been lots of

1172
00:45:13,609 --> 00:45:11,099
Talk of the space-time bubble of how

1173
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,619
they think that maybe UAP work there was

1174
00:45:17,809 --> 00:45:15,119
also the defense intelligence reference

1175
00:45:20,270 --> 00:45:17,819
documents all the dirts and that was you

1176
00:45:21,890 --> 00:45:20,280
know supposedly uh not necessarily all

1177
00:45:24,109 --> 00:45:21,900
of them were based on UFOs some of them

1178
00:45:25,370 --> 00:45:24,119
were some of them weren't I've talked to

1179
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,380
some of those authors and they had

1180
00:45:32,089 --> 00:45:27,599
nothing to do with UFOs others were

1181
00:45:34,130 --> 00:45:32,099
pretty uh blatantly about UFOs but um

1182
00:45:40,190 --> 00:45:34,140
yeah that's like they're trying to apply

1183
00:45:42,530 --> 00:45:40,200
their UAP kind of uh influence and um

1184
00:45:45,470 --> 00:45:42,540
and motivation into some of some of the

1185
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:45,480
science it's almost like you know uh how

1186
00:45:48,050 --> 00:45:47,040
science fiction does it but they're

1187
00:45:50,089 --> 00:45:48,060
trying to actually do it with hard

1188
00:45:52,130 --> 00:45:50,099
science so it's interesting

1189
00:45:53,450 --> 00:45:52,140
it's so tough because you're always

1190
00:45:55,370 --> 00:45:53,460
going to have when it comes to

1191
00:45:56,930 --> 00:45:55,380
disclosure it seems like people will

1192
00:45:58,849 --> 00:45:56,940
always if it's coming from the

1193
00:46:01,730 --> 00:45:58,859
government there's always going to be

1194
00:46:04,730 --> 00:46:01,740
those who believe it's deception no

1195
00:46:06,829 --> 00:46:04,740
matter you know what information is

1196
00:46:09,290 --> 00:46:06,839
provided which makes this very difficult

1197
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:09,300
but going back to something you

1198
00:46:12,050 --> 00:46:10,800
mentioned and it really grabbed my

1199
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:12,060
attention

1200
00:46:17,870 --> 00:46:16,079
is what Lou Elizondo said that may maybe

1201
00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:17,880
we're taking it a little out of context

1202
00:46:24,650 --> 00:46:20,700
but the fact that aliens may have landed

1203
00:46:26,930 --> 00:46:24,660
on Earth in 1945 and Roswell to be

1204
00:46:29,569 --> 00:46:26,940
specific what are your thoughts on

1205
00:46:34,430 --> 00:46:33,290
you know um when I when I came into

1206
00:46:37,250 --> 00:46:34,440
UFO

1207
00:46:40,910 --> 00:46:37,260
Community you know full bore because of

1208
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:40,920
2017. I was reading the Andy Jacobson

1209
00:46:43,609 --> 00:46:41,760
book

1210
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:43,619
she had her theories on it I was

1211
00:46:47,089 --> 00:46:44,880
thinking that could have been real Tom

1212
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:47,099
Delong was referencing that then I kind

1213
00:46:50,450 --> 00:46:48,480
of threw that out it didn't really make

1214
00:46:53,690 --> 00:46:50,460
sense

1215
00:46:55,370 --> 00:46:53,700
um and now um then I was kind of off

1216
00:46:58,030 --> 00:46:55,380
Roswell I remember hearing comments from

1217
00:47:01,130 --> 00:46:58,040
valet he was saying we have better cases

1218
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:01,140
Roswell is too popular we shouldn't be

1219
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:02,880
bringing that to the public as advocates

1220
00:47:07,370 --> 00:47:06,000
it's corny it's overused and those are

1221
00:47:10,130 --> 00:47:07,380
my words but I'm kind of doing a

1222
00:47:12,109 --> 00:47:10,140
synopsis here and um

1223
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,119
and we should kind of be off it so I was

1224
00:47:16,609 --> 00:47:14,640
off it for a while and then kind of Lou

1225
00:47:18,829 --> 00:47:16,619
started hinting at it again

1226
00:47:20,510 --> 00:47:18,839
and then he was really hinting at it a

1227
00:47:22,130 --> 00:47:20,520
lot in those fan of a bunch of

1228
00:47:23,450 --> 00:47:22,140
interviews he was doing so then I've

1229
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:23,460
been back on it believing it was real

1230
00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:25,440
now thanks to Elizondo

1231
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:28,560
yeah Lou I think it's it's hard to get

1232
00:47:33,470 --> 00:47:30,000
stuff out of him but when it comes out

1233
00:47:35,150 --> 00:47:33,480
it's fairly in my opinion I

1234
00:47:38,089 --> 00:47:35,160
it's it's not something that you should

1235
00:47:39,890 --> 00:47:38,099
throw out with the bath water and

1236
00:47:42,589 --> 00:47:39,900
I think it's interesting because as you

1237
00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:42,599
said the mainstream media and movies and

1238
00:47:49,069 --> 00:47:46,200
Hollywood it's almost at this point a

1239
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:49,079
given or at least in our society

1240
00:47:54,349 --> 00:47:51,839
socially culturally it's something that

1241
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:54,359
is accepted even though it's not spoken

1242
00:47:59,690 --> 00:47:56,880
of widely in public

1243
00:48:02,089 --> 00:47:59,700
when it's brought up people just assume

1244
00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:02,099
that it's true history so I think that's

1245
00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:04,500
super interesting some of the stuff that

1246
00:48:11,930 --> 00:48:09,480
is not assumed as being or not as not as

1247
00:48:14,750 --> 00:48:11,940
believed in mainstream

1248
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:14,760
media channels are some of the claims

1249
00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:16,319
that have been made by a lot of these

1250
00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:19,020
intelligent bright Minds one that comes

1251
00:48:25,250 --> 00:48:22,260
to mind is Christopher Mellon claims

1252
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:25,260
that there are photos of a black Cube

1253
00:48:29,630 --> 00:48:28,079
inside of a sphere have I have not seen

1254
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:29,640
these photos have you been able to track

1255
00:48:38,030 --> 00:48:36,230
um I don't know if I've heard of photos

1256
00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:38,040
specifically but that was part of the

1257
00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:41,460
gimbal event uh allegedly there's a lot

1258
00:48:47,089 --> 00:48:43,260
of these Cuban sphere

1259
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:47,099
um sightings on the East Coast allegedly

1260
00:48:52,849 --> 00:48:49,200
um Jeremy Corbell first mentioned it I

1261
00:48:54,530 --> 00:48:52,859
wrote a Blog on it many years ago and uh

1262
00:48:56,990 --> 00:48:54,540
we started talking about it it hit the

1263
00:48:58,490 --> 00:48:57,000
UFO Community hard then like six months

1264
00:49:00,410 --> 00:48:58,500
later it was in the New York Times so it

1265
00:49:02,750 --> 00:49:00,420
was cool because we had it from Jeremy

1266
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:02,760
Corbell and in my blog quoting Jeremy

1267
00:49:07,730 --> 00:49:05,520
before the time so we all felt cool

1268
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:07,740
about that but um yeah I mean that's

1269
00:49:12,770 --> 00:49:09,839
been kind of a big deal ever since maybe

1270
00:49:15,170 --> 00:49:12,780
2018 I think it was

1271
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:15,180
um maybe 2019 I can't remember but yeah

1272
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:17,040
there's been these sightings of the cube

1273
00:49:22,550 --> 00:49:20,400
and sphere then Tyler Rogue away uh and

1274
00:49:23,390 --> 00:49:22,560
the war zones they found

1275
00:49:31,550 --> 00:49:23,400
um

1276
00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:31,560
they were something that the United

1277
00:49:36,170 --> 00:49:34,500
States government was using and they lit

1278
00:49:37,970 --> 00:49:36,180
they were basically cubes and spheres so

1279
00:49:39,770 --> 00:49:37,980
then you know the Drone guys

1280
00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:39,780
made a big deal out of that saying that

1281
00:49:44,569 --> 00:49:41,880
it's case solved and these are you know

1282
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:44,579
American or from another government

1283
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,800
um and their cubes and spheres but the

1284
00:49:50,510 --> 00:49:49,200
people like Ryan Graves I don't know if

1285
00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:50,520
he's actually seen one with his eyes I

1286
00:49:54,530 --> 00:49:52,560
can't remember what he said but um

1287
00:49:56,030 --> 00:49:54,540
uh you know he's saying he thinks it's

1288
00:49:58,010 --> 00:49:56,040
like non-human intelligence so that's

1289
00:50:00,109 --> 00:49:58,020
been a big deal I don't know if there's

1290
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:00,119
continued Cuban sphere sightings but it

1291
00:50:04,250 --> 00:50:01,920
was really interesting shape especially

1292
00:50:05,690 --> 00:50:04,260
two shapes in one like that so it was

1293
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:05,700
really cool and we had definitely added

1294
00:50:09,770 --> 00:50:08,400
that to the uh alleged UAP list of

1295
00:50:11,930 --> 00:50:09,780
shapes

1296
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:11,940
um now we're getting octagons from these

1297
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:12,960
shootdowns and all kinds of different

1298
00:50:18,890 --> 00:50:15,599
things but uh yeah that that became part

1299
00:50:20,270 --> 00:50:18,900
of UFO lore almost instantaneously

1300
00:50:22,130 --> 00:50:20,280
you know I don't know if there's photos

1301
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:22,140
or what I would assume if they do exist

1302
00:50:25,490 --> 00:50:23,520
maybe there's gun camera footage or

1303
00:50:28,010 --> 00:50:25,500
something like that but I haven't heard

1304
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:28,020
um any direct uh it mentions about it

1305
00:50:32,809 --> 00:50:30,000
okay yeah and I think it would be

1306
00:50:34,970 --> 00:50:32,819
obviously super highly classified at

1307
00:50:37,010 --> 00:50:34,980
this point so

1308
00:50:38,930 --> 00:50:37,020
um I I think that's a good explanation

1309
00:50:40,609 --> 00:50:38,940
that you've given though it does seem

1310
00:50:42,770 --> 00:50:40,619
very strange that they are these

1311
00:50:44,690 --> 00:50:42,780
rudimentary shapes you know like things

1312
00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:44,700
like blocks and pieces that a child

1313
00:50:50,930 --> 00:50:46,500
would play with a toddler you know it's

1314
00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:50,940
cylinders squares triangles and uh

1315
00:50:55,490 --> 00:50:53,940
circles and it's just so interesting I

1316
00:50:56,990 --> 00:50:55,500
wonder if that's a message in some way

1317
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:57,000
shape or form and I'm glad that you

1318
00:51:03,170 --> 00:50:58,400
mentioned the term

1319
00:51:04,970 --> 00:51:03,180
non-human intelligence because that

1320
00:51:07,849 --> 00:51:04,980
really kind of

1321
00:51:10,670 --> 00:51:07,859
gets my mind thinking in larger things

1322
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:10,680
are is there a message to be learned

1323
00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:13,920
here and could we be talking about an

1324
00:51:18,349 --> 00:51:16,740
alien artificial intelligence or when

1325
00:51:21,049 --> 00:51:18,359
when you use the term non-human

1326
00:51:27,710 --> 00:51:21,059
intelligence where does your mind go

1327
00:51:30,410 --> 00:51:29,150
kind of was just debating me on Twitter

1328
00:51:33,170 --> 00:51:30,420
the other day

1329
00:51:34,490 --> 00:51:33,180
um because you know we call drones in

1330
00:51:37,309 --> 00:51:34,500
the UFO community that means they're

1331
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:37,319
man-made we say UFOs that means there's

1332
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:39,119
something else even on human

1333
00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:40,559
intelligence maybe that doesn't fit

1334
00:51:44,750 --> 00:51:42,359
exactly accurately because

1335
00:51:46,670 --> 00:51:44,760
it could be a breakaway Society of

1336
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,680
humans like Atlantis or something and

1337
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:48,480
they're still humans I don't know I'm

1338
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:49,440
just trying to differentiate

1339
00:51:54,530 --> 00:51:51,839
differentiate these things from like the

1340
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,540
weird to like the more normal where it'd

1341
00:51:58,849 --> 00:51:56,640
be like Russia China America or some

1342
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:58,859
actual government doing it you know for

1343
00:52:02,510 --> 00:52:01,680
spying reasons or whatever other reasons

1344
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:02,520
um so that's what I'm trying to

1345
00:52:06,650 --> 00:52:04,319
differentiate it's kind of hard with

1346
00:52:09,530 --> 00:52:06,660
these terms because

1347
00:52:11,390 --> 00:52:09,540
um we get uh kind of it gets muddy and

1348
00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:11,400
we kind of get caught up in them but I'm

1349
00:52:17,210 --> 00:52:13,980
just trying to differentiate these Main

1350
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:17,220
style of ideas back to uh Cuban spheres

1351
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:19,200
real quick I'm trying to remember what I

1352
00:52:22,849 --> 00:52:21,119
wrote Because I wrote a Blog on the

1353
00:52:24,530 --> 00:52:22,859
different shapes of UFOs and how they

1354
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:24,540
have their different shapes because they

1355
00:52:27,710 --> 00:52:26,640
have different functions

1356
00:52:29,809 --> 00:52:27,720
um and I get that from a really good

1357
00:52:31,970 --> 00:52:29,819
source many years ago I don't remember

1358
00:52:34,130 --> 00:52:31,980
if I put this in the blog or not or if I

1359
00:52:35,870 --> 00:52:34,140
remember Mr membrane but I think some of

1360
00:52:37,490 --> 00:52:35,880
the Cuban Spirit spheres they were more

1361
00:52:38,450 --> 00:52:37,500
like

1362
00:52:41,569 --> 00:52:38,460
um

1363
00:52:44,690 --> 00:52:41,579
UFO drones that were maybe like fly in

1364
00:52:46,190 --> 00:52:44,700
front of a bigger craft or things like

1365
00:52:48,829 --> 00:52:46,200
that information I don't remember if

1366
00:52:50,450 --> 00:52:48,839
that was the claim from what the gimbal

1367
00:52:52,730 --> 00:52:50,460
was when there's a whole Fleet of them

1368
00:52:55,250 --> 00:52:52,740
you know we hear that the pilots say

1369
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:55,260
that I think those are supposedly cues

1370
00:52:59,870 --> 00:52:57,119
and spheres and then there was the big

1371
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:59,880
gimbal craft which is like a big saucer

1372
00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:01,200
with points sticking down and we

1373
00:53:04,370 --> 00:53:02,400
actually have an animation of that

1374
00:53:06,410 --> 00:53:04,380
somewhere on my web page

1375
00:53:08,270 --> 00:53:06,420
um yeah so that's just more info on the

1376
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:08,280
cubes and spheres as well

1377
00:53:12,589 --> 00:53:10,800
that's that's really cool I've got to

1378
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:12,599
read that blog I love your blogs you've

1379
00:53:17,329 --> 00:53:14,880
always got great stuff and the military

1380
00:53:19,849 --> 00:53:17,339
drones and even you know the the

1381
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:19,859
civilian drones I mean the skydio2

1382
00:53:26,089 --> 00:53:23,280
civilian and military drones even have a

1383
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:26,099
ton of AI built into them I mean these

1384
00:53:34,010 --> 00:53:30,000
things can accommodate certain flight

1385
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,020
paths and do things that are not humanly

1386
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,480
controlled and they have tons of cameras

1387
00:53:40,010 --> 00:53:38,400
on them and this is just lower grade

1388
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:40,020
stuff that we're talking about the best

1389
00:53:46,270 --> 00:53:42,960
news is they are USA made and we seem to

1390
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:46,280
be leading in that Arena however

1391
00:53:52,750 --> 00:53:49,440
speaking of that do you believe that

1392
00:53:55,490 --> 00:53:52,760
civilian drones especially these

1393
00:54:00,530 --> 00:53:55,500
chinese-made civilian drones such as DJ

1394
00:54:03,069 --> 00:54:00,540
DJI and others I've seen that the FAA is

1395
00:54:06,290 --> 00:54:03,079
requiring I know I've had to

1396
00:54:08,030 --> 00:54:06,300
basically register and and get certified

1397
00:54:09,890 --> 00:54:08,040
and all this stuff to fly drones and I'd

1398
00:54:11,390 --> 00:54:09,900
have no problem with that but I think

1399
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:11,400
there's a reason for that do you think

1400
00:54:15,410 --> 00:54:13,440
we are going to see the limiting of that

1401
00:54:17,150 --> 00:54:15,420
in the future

1402
00:54:18,890 --> 00:54:17,160
I think they're going to have to

1403
00:54:20,270 --> 00:54:18,900
um especially with more and more people

1404
00:54:21,770 --> 00:54:20,280
having them

1405
00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:21,780
um I remember thinking about this a few

1406
00:54:26,210 --> 00:54:23,160
years ago right when the Drone thing was

1407
00:54:28,190 --> 00:54:26,220
starting and uh you know I think by now

1408
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:28,200
we thought like what was it be like all

1409
00:54:31,849 --> 00:54:29,760
food delivery would be drones and stuff

1410
00:54:33,230 --> 00:54:31,859
but we may get there one day

1411
00:54:35,630 --> 00:54:33,240
um and it is really interesting how much

1412
00:54:37,250 --> 00:54:35,640
damage even these cheaper drones can do

1413
00:54:38,809 --> 00:54:37,260
and I think in some of the other

1414
00:54:41,210 --> 00:54:38,819
countries and in Ukraine and stuff like

1415
00:54:43,250 --> 00:54:41,220
that you know they're doing serious uh

1416
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:43,260
damage and killing people with

1417
00:54:48,589 --> 00:54:46,559
inexpensive drones and um it's crazy how

1418
00:54:51,470 --> 00:54:48,599
much damage can be done and uh people

1419
00:54:52,970 --> 00:54:51,480
like Tyler Rogue away are correct

1420
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:52,980
um when they say this is like a whole

1421
00:54:57,530 --> 00:54:55,920
new uh type of warfare and we need to be

1422
00:55:01,130 --> 00:54:57,540
careful with it

1423
00:55:03,530 --> 00:55:01,140
big time and you know as we sort of wrap

1424
00:55:06,589 --> 00:55:03,540
up here you're definitely staying on

1425
00:55:08,990 --> 00:55:06,599
Target and your explanations of the data

1426
00:55:10,930 --> 00:55:09,000
are Way Way Beyond what I expected I

1427
00:55:14,030 --> 00:55:10,940
appreciate that you're always on point

1428
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:14,040
and what do you think the implications

1429
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:16,079
of what we are currently witnessing in

1430
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:17,520
the mass media are going to be do you

1431
00:55:21,290 --> 00:55:19,680
think where where is this headed are we

1432
00:55:22,490 --> 00:55:21,300
going to see a lot more of this or do

1433
00:55:23,930 --> 00:55:22,500
you think it's going to fizzle out a

1434
00:55:25,549 --> 00:55:23,940
little bit

1435
00:55:29,329 --> 00:55:25,559
you know they asked the general that

1436
00:55:30,349 --> 00:55:29,339
yesterday and with the new

1437
00:55:33,049 --> 00:55:30,359
um

1438
00:55:36,530 --> 00:55:33,059
filter is being turned on and the new

1439
00:55:39,530 --> 00:55:36,540
heightened press interest and all these

1440
00:55:42,589 --> 00:55:39,540
unprecedented shoot Downs I I'm hoping

1441
00:55:44,270 --> 00:55:42,599
that if these crafts are uh in our

1442
00:55:45,650 --> 00:55:44,280
airspace more

1443
00:55:47,390 --> 00:55:45,660
um whether they're from other countries

1444
00:55:49,849 --> 00:55:47,400
other quote unquote UFOs or whatever

1445
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:49,859
they are that we're going to be catching

1446
00:55:52,970 --> 00:55:51,119
a lot more of them now because now

1447
00:55:54,410 --> 00:55:52,980
they're looking for smaller things the

1448
00:55:55,630 --> 00:55:54,420
government is a lot more serious they

1449
00:55:57,770 --> 00:55:55,640
seem to be not playing around anymore

1450
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:57,780
because of all because of the Chinese

1451
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:00,480
balloon it's really weird how this chain

1452
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:03,839
of events has occurred and gone down and

1453
00:56:08,569 --> 00:56:06,720
what uh I'm waiting to see is like I was

1454
00:56:09,890 --> 00:56:08,579
saying earlier kind of that I don't even

1455
00:56:11,390 --> 00:56:09,900
know if we should be I should be calling

1456
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:11,400
it a conspiracy like I did earlier but

1457
00:56:16,190 --> 00:56:14,160
just the worry that people are going to

1458
00:56:19,010 --> 00:56:16,200
start thinking that there is no UFO UAP

1459
00:56:20,809 --> 00:56:19,020
it's all the UFO UAP are man-made from

1460
00:56:22,490 --> 00:56:20,819
other countries so I'm waiting to see if

1461
00:56:24,530 --> 00:56:22,500
that's going to happen

1462
00:56:26,750 --> 00:56:24,540
um you know I've been getting excited

1463
00:56:28,430 --> 00:56:26,760
and been on social media Twitter a lot I

1464
00:56:30,890 --> 00:56:28,440
was also speculating and this is obvious

1465
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:30,900
that um even if most of these shoot

1466
00:56:35,809 --> 00:56:34,079
Downs are or all of them are uh you know

1467
00:56:39,470 --> 00:56:35,819
from other countries all we need is one

1468
00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:39,480
that isn't and that they uh get it and I

1469
00:56:42,349 --> 00:56:40,440
don't know if they're going to tell us

1470
00:56:44,089 --> 00:56:42,359
or not there's a whole nother subject

1471
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,099
going on today where

1472
00:56:47,630 --> 00:56:46,319
the government is basically

1473
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:47,640
um insinuating that they're having a lot

1474
00:56:50,930 --> 00:56:49,440
of trouble with these recoveries

1475
00:56:52,609 --> 00:56:50,940
which is really interesting because we

1476
00:56:55,309 --> 00:56:52,619
hear about these recoveries UFO

1477
00:56:56,510 --> 00:56:55,319
Recoveries over the decades and um these

1478
00:56:58,609 --> 00:56:56,520
small things they're like blasting them

1479
00:56:59,569 --> 00:56:58,619
into a million pieces apparently it's

1480
00:57:02,390 --> 00:56:59,579
not

1481
00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:02,400
um as easy to shoot them with uh rounds

1482
00:57:06,170 --> 00:57:04,500
or ammunition they're you know they're

1483
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,180
using missiles and heatseeker missiles

1484
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:07,680
and all these other types of things and

1485
00:57:12,049 --> 00:57:10,559
they're blowing these things up and um I

1486
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,059
guess they have the option for both but

1487
00:57:15,410 --> 00:57:14,160
in general explained it better than me

1488
00:57:16,970 --> 00:57:15,420
of course but I guess you know they're

1489
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:16,980
using missiles that's probably making

1490
00:57:22,910 --> 00:57:19,680
the retrievals even harder the one in

1491
00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:22,920
Alaska was over frozen ocean I haven't

1492
00:57:29,210 --> 00:57:25,200
heard whether they got to it or not the

1493
00:57:31,849 --> 00:57:29,220
one in um I think it was in Canada they

1494
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:31,859
had the United States uh the general was

1495
00:57:34,910 --> 00:57:33,359
saying they're still looking for it as

1496
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:34,920
of yesterday I don't know if there's

1497
00:57:39,650 --> 00:57:36,960
been an update on that so we're just

1498
00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:39,660
we're getting to actually see insight

1499
00:57:44,089 --> 00:57:41,700
into the crash retrieval process which

1500
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:44,099
is so fascinating for me because we've

1501
00:57:47,390 --> 00:57:45,359
been talking about Crash retrieval

1502
00:57:49,370 --> 00:57:47,400
programs crash retrieval programs UFOs

1503
00:57:52,490 --> 00:57:49,380
casualty for programs like that's been

1504
00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:52,500
main topic is the main buzzword for

1505
00:57:56,750 --> 00:57:54,720
years in the UFO community and now we're

1506
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:56,760
actually seeing it happen

1507
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:58,319
um and we're getting at least a little

1508
00:58:01,430 --> 00:58:00,000
bit of a glimpse into it I don't know

1509
00:58:03,109 --> 00:58:01,440
how transparent the government is being

1510
00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:03,119
about it some people think they're

1511
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,980
really lying a lot and if these were

1512
00:58:08,089 --> 00:58:06,480
actual UFOs we'd never be hearing about

1513
00:58:09,890 --> 00:58:08,099
any of it

1514
00:58:10,970 --> 00:58:09,900
um and then other people are thinking

1515
00:58:11,930 --> 00:58:10,980
maybe they're telling the truth and

1516
00:58:13,549 --> 00:58:11,940
they're just being honest with the

1517
00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:13,559
troubles they're having

1518
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:15,960
but it's just so cool to hear about

1519
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,480
um anything being shot down and then

1520
00:58:22,490 --> 00:58:20,640
trying to be retrieved to me right like

1521
00:58:25,370 --> 00:58:22,500
I thought that was super cool too that

1522
00:58:27,710 --> 00:58:25,380
it broke into a million pieces hard to

1523
00:58:31,150 --> 00:58:27,720
Define exactly what it was a lot of

1524
00:58:35,210 --> 00:58:31,160
interesting questions about the

1525
00:58:38,089 --> 00:58:35,220
operational you know traits of this this

1526
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:38,099
thing and speaking of operational traits

1527
00:58:44,089 --> 00:58:40,799
I recently heard this is kind of through

1528
00:58:46,750 --> 00:58:44,099
the rumor mill again however that some

1529
00:58:49,549 --> 00:58:46,760
of the pentagon's Next Generation

1530
00:58:53,930 --> 00:58:49,559
sixth generation stealth fighter jets

1531
00:58:56,569 --> 00:58:53,940
Etc have so much AI on them that there

1532
00:59:00,349 --> 00:58:56,579
is actually something on board which

1533
00:59:02,809 --> 00:59:00,359
tells Pilots whether uaps are

1534
00:59:05,210 --> 00:59:02,819
potentially harmful neutral or friendly

1535
00:59:07,370 --> 00:59:05,220
have you heard this at all

1536
00:59:09,650 --> 00:59:07,380
I haven't um man you hear a lot of cool

1537
00:59:12,289 --> 00:59:09,660
things I gotta um let me start calling

1538
00:59:14,930 --> 00:59:12,299
you more but uh I the main thing I heard

1539
00:59:17,089 --> 00:59:14,940
was that Elizondo um quote from like

1540
00:59:18,650 --> 00:59:17,099
2018 so this was old and it didn't have

1541
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:18,660
anything to do with uh

1542
00:59:21,710 --> 00:59:20,400
bombers or anything like that but he was

1543
00:59:24,049 --> 00:59:21,720
just saying how we're able to identify

1544
00:59:25,730 --> 00:59:24,059
drones what make and model they are and

1545
00:59:27,410 --> 00:59:25,740
things like that now that was his

1546
00:59:29,150 --> 00:59:27,420
opinion I'm sure a bunch of people would

1547
00:59:31,010 --> 00:59:29,160
disagree with him on it

1548
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:31,020
um but you know that's what that was

1549
00:59:35,210 --> 00:59:32,400
understood so that was the main thing I

1550
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:35,220
had heard and I just wondered

1551
00:59:40,370 --> 00:59:37,440
um how is that possible uh but I guess

1552
00:59:42,289 --> 00:59:40,380
you know with technology and uh advanced

1553
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:42,299
technology maybe according to Elizondo

1554
00:59:45,410 --> 00:59:44,160
they're able to do it I don't know but

1555
00:59:46,910 --> 00:59:45,420
it doesn't seem to be the case in the

1556
00:59:48,650 --> 00:59:46,920
shoot Bounds at least because I mean

1557
00:59:52,130 --> 00:59:48,660
they can't identify this stuff

1558
00:59:54,530 --> 00:59:52,140
so cool it is so cool and

1559
00:59:56,930 --> 00:59:54,540
um let me ask you this as usual you have

1560
00:59:59,870 --> 00:59:56,940
way more information than I expected

1561
01:00:01,970 --> 00:59:59,880
where can people keep in touch with what

1562
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:01,980
you have going on read your blog and

1563
01:00:06,589 --> 01:00:04,799
keep up with everything Danny Silva

1564
01:00:07,870 --> 01:00:06,599
my old dog

1565
01:00:11,210 --> 01:00:07,880
com

1566
01:00:13,130 --> 01:00:11,220
stopped writing

1567
01:00:14,630 --> 01:00:13,140
um I'm just mainly a talking head on

1568
01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:14,640
social media if you really want to keep

1569
01:00:20,210 --> 01:00:16,799
up with me you can follow me on Twitter

1570
01:00:22,670 --> 01:00:20,220
which is civil record or Instagram Danny

1571
01:00:25,970 --> 01:00:22,680
silver record and I'm making just like a

1572
01:00:26,510 --> 01:00:25,980
social media talking head now mostly and

1573
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:26,520
um

1574
01:00:29,569 --> 01:00:28,559
and that's about it if I come across a

1575
01:00:31,069 --> 01:00:29,579
really big story that I'm really

1576
01:00:32,809 --> 01:00:31,079
interested and I'll be writing about it

1577
01:00:34,490 --> 01:00:32,819
there's a lot more people writing these

1578
01:00:35,930 --> 01:00:34,500
days and mainstream media is involved

1579
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:35,940
and I just I don't feel like I have to

1580
01:00:38,809 --> 01:00:37,680
write a blog about every little thing

1581
01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:38,819
anymore but I'll probably be talking

1582
01:00:44,270 --> 01:00:40,799
about it on Twitter

1583
01:00:47,089 --> 01:00:44,280
great research and investigation man

1584
01:00:49,789 --> 01:00:47,099
um the topics always the best and the

1585
01:00:53,690 --> 01:00:49,799
best part about it is that you are not

1586
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:53,700
ever it's it's you never try to kind of

1587
01:01:01,010 --> 01:00:57,599
uh overdo it or you know say things that

1588
01:01:04,849 --> 01:01:01,020
are not true so I I appreciate your your

1589
01:01:06,890 --> 01:01:04,859
power to stay stable because uh as you

1590
01:01:08,990 --> 01:01:06,900
said a lot of people don't do that in

1591
01:01:10,730 --> 01:01:09,000
this field so everything that comes out

1592
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:10,740
of your Camp I always

1593
01:01:14,690 --> 01:01:12,720
um keep it held pretty close and I think

1594
01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:14,700
it's it's good stuff thanks so much

1595
01:01:18,109 --> 01:01:16,319
Danny I appreciate you coming on with

1596
01:01:19,609 --> 01:01:18,119
such short notice and I hope we we talk

1597
01:01:21,890 --> 01:01:19,619
again soon

1598
01:01:24,349 --> 01:01:21,900
thanks Ryan it's an exciting time and uh

1599
01:01:25,549 --> 01:01:24,359
man it's fast moving and I'm excited I'm

1600
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:25,559
just waiting to see what happens next

1601
01:01:30,410 --> 01:01:28,079
man thank you thank you

1602
01:01:34,250 --> 01:01:30,420
well there you have it guys

1603
01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:34,260
Danny Silva he's a straight shooter he

1604
01:01:40,190 --> 01:01:37,200
never embellishes sticks to the facts

1605
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:40,200
does his research and investigations on

1606
01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:41,280
The Daily

1607
01:01:48,349 --> 01:01:44,760
and he always has a ton of information

1608
01:01:50,109 --> 01:01:48,359
I'm very very interested in where this

1609
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:50,119
is all going to lead

1610
01:01:56,450 --> 01:01:54,000
and given his track record I'm uh I'm

1611
01:01:58,130 --> 01:01:56,460
gonna go with Danny and his Camp of what

1612
01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:58,140
might take place here

1613
01:02:04,130 --> 01:02:00,480
he's definitely the guy to follow on

1614
01:02:06,170 --> 01:02:04,140
social media look him up keep tabs on

1615
01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:06,180
what is taking place he's talking to all

1616
01:02:09,710 --> 01:02:07,500
the right people

1617
01:02:12,289 --> 01:02:09,720
and until next time keep your eyes to

1618
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:12,299
the skies feet on the ground but don't

1619
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:23,710
foreign